Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    ...On the Grid... gbowie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    East London, South Africa
    Posts
    30
    Has any one had any experience of using bored out carbs on a TZ.
    I have recently acquired a '91 3YL with 4DP barrels and CDI and on investigation found that a previous owner has bored the carbs to 39mm.
    The bike pulls well, but tops out between 11-11.5k, I have checked the power jets (found one with a broken wire and repaired this) and they get 12v at high revs in neutral .
    I have done a check on the settings and find as follows :-
    Mains...420
    Power jets..80
    Pilot jets..20
    Nozzels... R 3 ?? (Unlisted in the parts manual)
    Needle clip.. one richer than middle.
    air screws.. 1 turn out
    Squish.. around 0.8mm .
    Timing.. 1.59mm BTDC.
    I am running at sea level using 102 octane leaded petrol and Motol 800 (motocross) at 30:1.
    Has anyone any suggestions as to what difference the extra 1mm bore dia would make to jetting and why it won't rev to ( I'm told 12500-13000).
    Also it won't idle, but I suppose that comes with buggering around with the carbs.
    Any ideas.
    Geoff.



    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails IMG_1381.jpg  

  2. #2
    ...quite the collection, eh?... Dale Whelan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Mesa, Arizona
    Posts
    742
    try replacing the plug caps
    Dale Whelan
    Racing Grampa

  3. #3
    ...my fingers hurt...
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    750
    Weird jetting. I'd put the needle back where it should be then
    go to R6 nozzles to save it from seizing on the over-run.

    Do a plug chop.

    I'd have thought 360 mains & 60 power jets would be more likely unless you are running oxygenated fuel, but do the plug-chops.

    The dead power jet solenoid will also reduce over-rev by making it rich above 11,500-12,000, but it wouldn't be so bad if you were closer with the mains.

    And they're not meant to idle.



    GrahamB

  4. #4
    ...On the Grid... gbowie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    East London, South Africa
    Posts
    30
    Thanks for the info guys, Unable to test the bike until the next race 16/17 June...Dale, on checking the plug caps I found the bike fitted with shortened Bougicord supressor cables and caps off a car, have fitted copper cables with new NGK supressor caps.. Can't find unsupressed caps ??
    grahamb, have ordered R6 nozzles Ex Japan ...3 weeks and will try the suggested jetting at our next race.
    Will keep you posted.
    Thanks.
    Geoff.

  5. #5
    ...here I go again... T678's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    san francisco, CA
    Posts
    120
    Geoff, welcome aboard!

    I've never known tz's to idle. Is it possible or does it matter? Anyone on this?
    My slide is a 4.5 and factory on (my 93tz, leaded) is of course 3.5
    Should I change it back if I live in california?
    Tyler
    AFM # 678

  6. #6
    Guest
    Hi, as GrahamB said they're not meant to idle which is why there are no idle screws on the carbs, the only time I've known a TZ to idle is when it's had a sticky throttle cable.

    I also understand they're meant to run resistor plug caps and it's important that they are fitted for the good running of the bike, and Ive never had a TZ run well with the needle anywhere other than in the factory set position.

    Ross.

  7. #7
    ...my fingers hurt...
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    750
    Actually my 93 would idle... but only because someone had drilled a hole in the slide. The idea was to stop it from seizing at the end of a straight, the idling was a side effect.

    I never realised it would until I was selling it, the guy trying it out just let the throttle go expecting it to stop and it didn't
    GrahamB

  8. #8
    ...they call me the rocket man... gzinga's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    santa cruz, ca, usa
    Posts
    363
    mine won't hidle worth of sh...

  9. #9
    ...they call me the rocket man...
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    339
    It is not suppose to idle.Street bikes idles but not real race bikes.Selling it?.

  10. #10
    ...my fingers hurt...
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    750
    Quote Originally Posted by (2stsmoke @ July 17 2007,1:38)
    Selling it?.
    That was my '93... sold it in 2003

    Bought a 2003 in 2006
    GrahamB

Similar Threads

  1. PWK 39mm Carbs
    By Styler_Colfax in forum GP Accessories
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-19-2009, 03:47 PM
  2. Carburettors Wanted
    By donkieote in forum TZ Parts
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-02-2009, 01:54 PM
  3. and bored carbs 39mm
    By far601 in forum TZ Parts
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-11-2008, 02:14 PM
  4. 2002 Carburettors
    By Yarno in forum TZ Carburetion & Jetting
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-07-2006, 12:01 AM
  5. Kit Carburettors
    By lhart in forum TZ Parts
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-03-2002, 02:24 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


<% COPYRIGHT %>