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    ... feel the power... DonTZ125's Avatar
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    New programmable ignition in design - TZ125 and 250



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    This is still vapourware at this point, but I have a few thoughts about what I want to do, and I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions on what you'd like to see.

    Planned Features:

    Plug 'n' play with 4DP / 4TW / 5KE and 4JT
    • No cutting, splicing or crimping
    • Compatible with 'extra' pins etc on Kit and 5KE4 harnesses
    • Ignitions for earlier models will be available with mating connectors where possible
    o Connectors identified for 3YL, 3TC, 3LC
    o Customer input needed to confirm lead lengths
    o Compatible with AC-CDI charging coils on earlier models
    • On-board Bluetooth
    • Tuning software useable with PC, laptop, or smartphone


    Ignition:
    • 12 x 12 3D map, fully interpolating, TPS vs RPM
    • Input switch to swap between Map1 and Map2
    • 3-position Map1 adjust (points inside the curve; ie 13,500 point on 5KE WGP map)
    • Offset right cylinder timing vs left
    • Retard on knock; adjustable threshold
    • 50% spark cut ("4-stroking") on closed throttle [ndwedwe]
    • Override PJ to reduce knock (if cut) [dand]

    Auxiliary Systems:
    • Power Jet Solenoid
    o On/off or modulating, 8-point curve vs RPM
    o Input switch to change PJ maps
    • YPVS
    o Cleaning cycle at power-up
    o Guillotine-type - open / shut at adjustable RPM (9000 per ’02 5KE3)
    o 5KE4 barrel-type modulating YPVS - 10-point curve vs RPM
    • Shift Light at adjustable RPM
    • Quick Shift with adjustable spark cut time
    • Launch Control with adjustable launch limit
    o Prevents engine from revving past set point while clutch is pulled
    o Allows rider to hold throttle wide open, concentrate solely on clutch

    External Components:
    • TPS – bolt-on, in design
    • Shift Light – bolt-on to standard instrument bracket
    • Quick Shifter
    • Switch Cluster - compatible with YEC 0-7 Selector
    • Launch Switch
    • SD Card Logger - in design
    • Knock sensor, mounting adaptor and processor module

    Thoughts? Comments, rude or otherwise?
    Last edited by DonTZ125; 08-09-2016 at 09:19 PM. Reason: Update features per discussions - thanks!
    TTR Ignition Systems
    Quick Shifters - Inline Shift Sensors - Rev Limiters & Launch Controllers
    [ Coming Soon - Replacement Harnesses ][ Vapourware - Programmable Ignition ]
    Former (waayyyy former) RACE #125

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    Sounds awesome!
    How about a gear position indicator..?

    Keep us all posted on your progress, this is great stuff.

    Jeff
    TZ250 4TW
    TZ250 4DP Ex GMR Racing bike
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    Thanks for the kind words.

    A GPI would probably be a stand-alone unit; I *might* be able to come up with a sensor to fit insde the transmission ...
    TTR Ignition Systems
    Quick Shifters - Inline Shift Sensors - Rev Limiters & Launch Controllers
    [ Coming Soon - Replacement Harnesses ][ Vapourware - Programmable Ignition ]
    Former (waayyyy former) RACE #125

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    Sounds like you've got it all covered and a hell of a task ahead.
    The zeel had a feature with the tps where if you chopped the throttle hard (end of a straight) it would only fire every 3rd revolution. The rev counter would drop to zero.
    As soon as you cracked the throttle it was back to normal. I recall it giving me a little confidence on my road bikes that you weren't going to lock up after a long straight.
    1993 TZ250
    1999 TZ250

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    a d v e r t i s e m e n t

    If it was easy, anyone could do it - and there wouldn't be any money in it!

    Spark cutting on overrun - yeah, I remember an article about the old RZ500s, and how they had a bad habit of that - it called them "the whispering death". This will need a bit of thought ...
    Last edited by DonTZ125; 08-09-2016 at 09:11 PM.
    TTR Ignition Systems
    Quick Shifters - Inline Shift Sensors - Rev Limiters & Launch Controllers
    [ Coming Soon - Replacement Harnesses ][ Vapourware - Programmable Ignition ]
    Former (waayyyy former) RACE #125

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